Interviewed by Saul Maraney in 2007 Dr Hew Len answers some basic questions on Ho’oponopono-
Peace Begins With Me
Dr Len points out that we always need to remember the very old saying: “Peace begins with me.” He says that if there is to be peace on earth; it needs to begin individually with each one of us.
Dr Len says that Ho’oponopono is about looking within ourselves for debts, errors or blocks in our subconscious mind that replay as problems, judgments, putdowns and all kinds of other problems.
The Blocks Are Within
Dr Len says that Ho’oponopono is about saying to The Divine within us (The Self): “I am sorry, please forgive me for whatever is going on in me, that I experience the world in me this way”.
Taking 100% Responsibility
Dr Len says that when we are willing to take 100% responsibility for whatever we experience in our life, we can then go onto the next step where we say “I am sorry, and not only am I sorry, but please forgive me for what ever is going on in me that caused this”.
By saying sorry and taking 100% responsibility for whatever is going on in our lives, we are in essence saying to The Divine “I am 100% responsible, the problem is within me, and I would like You to convert whatever that memory, debt, block, error or problem is to nothing.”
And when The Divinity converts the block or memory to nothing, we return back to our original state, which is Zero or clarity.
Dr Len says that only when we have clarity, can The Divinity provide us with insight, inspiration and whatever is perfect for us.
Dr Len Watches Himself
Dr Len says that as he experiences whatever comes in to his life, he gets back to his Ho’oponopono cleaning, because he knows that “Peace begins with me”.
Dr Len says that he is willing to be 100% responsible for whatever he experiences in his life, and he makes the point that as he experiences woes and problems in his life, he constantly reminds himself that the source that caused it is within him.
Dr Len Is Working Moment To Moment With Divinity
Dr Len points out that therapists that take 100% responsibility for what they see in their clients and include “I am sorry” and “I love You” as part of their work with patients feel less burned out, and are much more effective because “Peace begins with me”.
The Problem Is Within Us
Dr Len says that as we are willing to be 100% responsible for whatever we experience in our lives, we shift our perception of the world, and that causes the world to change. We have to take 100% responsibility for the problem within us. Dr Len says that we all keep looking outside of ourselves for how we can solve the world’s problems, but that doesn’t work.
Working On Others Is Not Our Job
Dr Len points out that he was trained as an educator from 1964 to 1982 to help handicapped and developmentally disabled children, but then over twenty years later, he learned that that is not his job.
Change The Way We Perceive Other People
Dr Len then learned that his job is to help himself by letting go of how he perceived handicapped children.
As he changed the way that he perceived handicapped children (quite like how he changed the way he perceived the mentally criminally insane patients at the Hawaii State Hospital in the late 80’s) they changed.
Dr Len points out that it is most important to look at our own world first, and if we are willing to do that, our impact on the whole Cosmos will be enormous. He went on to stress that most people think they are here to help other people and bring peace to the world, but that we are only here to bring peace to ourselves, because by bringing peace to ourselves, we bring peace to the world (and not the other way round).
Dr Len says that the only thing that works is if we look within ourselves and clear up the “stuff” in us. He points out that as he does this, he notices that people get well and are able to start taking responsibility for themselves.
Shakespeare’s Profound Insight
According to Dr Len, the person who had the most profound insight into the human condition was Shakespeare. Shakespeare points out over and over in all of his Sonnets that the woes that we experience now are the woes that we have experienced before.
The Change First Has To Happen In Us
Dr Len says that when we see the woe in a judgmental way, it means that it is already in us, but if we let go of if and do our Ho’oponopono cleaning by saying “I’m sorry for whatever is going on in me that I perceive the woe a certain way”, only then does it change. But the change has to take place in us first.
Incessant Ho’oponopono Cleaning
Dr Len says that cleaning memories from our subconscious mind takes incessant moment by moment Ho’oponopono cleaning.
Experience People The Way The Divine Created Them Dr Len points out that we never experience things correctly, but we always experience our reaction to them. Dr Len knows that when he meets people, he does not experience them the way The Divine created them, so he continuously cleans by saying to The Divine “I am sorry for what ever is going on in me that I do not experience people the way You created them, please forgive me”.
By doing this, Dr Len is asking The Divinity to cancel what is in him, that causes him to react to people, and not see them as they truly are – Divine Beings. Dr Len says that once we let go of the dictate of memories by doing the Ho’oponopono cleaning, the memories stop playing, and not only the memories we hear playing, but many other memories simultaneously playing, but we are unaware of.
He says that when we do Ho’oponopono, we are asking The Divine to remove the faults from our Soul and subconscious mind so that we can see people being perfect, the way The Divine created them, and when we respond to them, they will respond as being perfect.
Dr Len went on to say that if we want to see people without problems, we need to get rid of our own problems first.
Dr Len says that Ho’oponopono is only about working on yourself and looking at the data and info in your personal subconscious mind that causes burdens and should be removed.
Anger Is A Memory Replaying
Dr Len says that when people are angry, it is not the person who is angry, but it is a memory replaying anger.
He said that if we know this and keep it mind, we can change the data. The Ho’oponopono we do is not changing the other person, because that person is perfect, but what is imperfect is the data, and we have to ask The Divinity to convert that data to zero.
100% Responsibility For Whatever We Are Experiencing
Dr Len says that when we are doing Ho’oponopono, we are clearly stating to The Divine “I am 100% responsible for what I am experiencing, and I am experiencing suffering in the form of judgment or whatever. Something is going on in me (some data or memory) and it is dictating this experience, and I would like to be 100% responsible for it. I am sorry for that.” He went on to say that the conscious mind does not take responsibly, and resorts to blame.
Erasing Memories Replaying In The Subconscious Mind
Dr Len says that as humans, we have “stuff” going on that we can’t help because of the memories replaying in our subconscious mind, and these blocks prevent us from experiencing The Divine. Ho’oponopono is about erasing those memories that keep us from absolutely truly living and not being constrained by fear and how we feel. Ho’oponopono is about working on whatever is going on in us that we are not able (generation after generation) to move through to a point where we can experience The Divine.
Avoid Trying To Figure Out What Is Going On
Dr Len say that Ho’oponopono is about giving up those things in us that keep us stuck and constrained, and that we have no idea of what those things even are. He says that we don’t know what we don’t know, so he tries not to figure out what is going on in his life, or with the people that he consults with, but that all times, he only does his Ho’oponopono cleaning on himself.
Dr Len points out that as he does his personal Ho’oponopono cleaning, he notices that people are able to work through their problems, and often they say to him that they would also like to learn how to do Ho’oponopono themselves.
Who Are We?
Dr Len says that we can be our own therapist/guru/healer, and that all we have to do is answer a couple of questions; – The most important being “Who am I?” According to Dr Len, that is the most important question of creation, but unfortunately, most people don’t know who they are.
Dr Len said that if we know who we are, we would realize that we need to take 100% responsibility for everything we experience in our life, but that we cannot blame other people for not knowing this.
What Is A Problem?
The other thing we need to know, according to Dr Len is “What is a problem, and where is the problem?”
Dr Len says that all problems are a result of memories replaying in our subconscious mind, but that he does not deal with problems.
He says that we are all children of The Divine, and are an exact replica of The Divinity, which is at its natural state Void (clear) and Infinite, and that our job is to return to that original state of being clear, empty and Infinite.
So Ho’oponopono is about erasing and cleaning the block in our subconscious mind so that we can come back to zero/clarity, and that only out of that clarity can Divinity come in as inspiration.
Being Clear And Infinite
Dr Len says that every day he works on letting go of the blocks in his life, that keep him from being one with The Divine; – Which is to be Clear and Infinite. Dr Len says that he does his Ho’oponopono cleaning so that he is clear and able to move through his life without experiencing hardships, anger, resentment, blame or problems.
Blame Doesn’t Work
Dr Len says that blame and saying “How Come?” doesn’t work in therapy, family or governments, but when we get back to Zero, then The Divinity can infuse our mind with whatever is perfect for us. Dr Len says that he takes 100% responsibility for whatever he experiences as problem in the word, because he knows that the whole world is within him, and that as he changes by being 100% responsible and saying “I’m sorry”, the world changes too.
Moment By Moment Ho’oponopono Cleaning
Dr Len says that he drinks blue solar water moment by moment because it is another important Ho’oponopono cleaning tool.
From the moment that Dr Len gets up in the morning, until he goes to bed at night, he is staying with the Ho’oponopono cleaning, because he knows that erasing memories requires incessant Ho’oponopono cleaning. He says that as we stop cleaning, we go ‘bonkers’ with the rest of the world.
Cleaning On People’s Names
Dr Len says that as people sign up for his weekend Ho’oponopono seminars, he works on their names before he enters the room. He does this because he is attempting to reduce “piles of stuff” (memories and data in his subconscious mind) that he shares with other people. He says that if he doesn’t do this, he will show up at the class, and the class will go crazy and be stuck in thinking because he didn’t get ready for them.
Dr Len is always doing his Ho’oponopono cleaning – before, during and after he does anything. Dr Len says that Divinity knows his connection with people he has not yet met, and whatever memories he has in common with them, and which memories are important for him to let go of.
Talking To The Divinity, Who Knows Everything
Dr Len says that Ho’oponopono is about talking to The Divinity, Who knows everything, and that he (Dr Len) is just making amends with The Divinity, because he doesn’t have any idea of what may be going on in him that is going to bug other people.
So Dr Len looks at The Divinity within himself which is The Source that knows everything, because he (Dr Len) knows nothing.
Dr Len went on to say that there is a part of us called “The Divine Creator”, and that Source knows what is going on. That is why we make an appeal, and that Source in us can cancel the information and data in our subconscious mind.
The Intellect Cannot Cancel Error Memories
Dr Len makes that point our intellect does not have the ability to cancel error memories in our subconscious mind because that is not its function.
The function of the intellect, according to Dr Len, is to make the choice of whether we are going to take 100% responsibility for everything we experience in our life (or not), and that he would like to be 100% responsible for whatever is in him that would bug other people.
Memories Make Decisions For Us
Dr Len made the point that there is enough research that proves that at any second, there are more than 11 million pieces of data going on, but that our conscious mind is only aware of 15 of them. (Tor Norretranders – The User Illusion) He went on to say that it is scientifically proven that our conscious mind does not make our decisions, but that it is memories that that define our decisions for us. Dr Len also said that it is memories that tell us to judge and have anger and resentment, and the conscious mind itself does not make decisions.
Allowing Divinity To Make Our Decisions
But Dr Len wants Divinity to make his decisions. Dr Len says that we can’t serve two masters; memories making decisions and Divinity. We need to choose, and in order to have Divinity make the decisions for us, we need to have the memories in our subconscious mind cancelled.
Everyone Is Already Perfect
Dr Len stressed that everyone is already perfect, but what is imperfect is the data in our subconscious minds, and that is what we have got to work on. Dr Len said that the world is within us, and by changing the world in us, we change everything.
Concert Master At The Symphony Orchestra
Dr Len used the analogy of the concert master at the symphony orchestra to explain the Ho’oponopono cleaning.
“The orchestra always tunes up before beginning, and this is what the Ho’oponopono cleaning is, because as we get tuned up, so does everyone else. But if we come in un-tuned, it is hell to pay, and we will feel pain”.
Dr Len says that as we change the data in us that we have in common with other people, The Divine erases it from us, and them too.
Dr Len concluded by asking: What kind of profound shift would the whole world experience if everyone took 100% responsibility for everything they experienced in their life and did not get caught up in blame?
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